Monday, September 17, 2018

Review of the AnyTone AT-868UV

Updated: The AnyTone AT-868UV (868 from now on) is a very cool "Digital Mobile Radio" (AKA DMR radio).  It's a dual-band analog radio that also supports DMR so you can use it for both classic analog and digital. I really like the "Zone" feature, which is nothing more than a grouping of channels.  Zones are great for me since I only want to see some channels when when I'm at my summer home or working with my ARES team.   This is similar to the Yaesu "Bank" but Yaesu banks are hard to use, not labeled on some radios and kind of kludgy.  The way you switch banks is different on my two Yaesu HTs and I’m always forgetting how it works.  

I won the 868 in a raffle at a Papa System Group love-in.  The Papa Group is a great bunch of hams here is SoCal, supporting about 14 analog repeaters in Southern California that can use IRLP linking.  In addition they have 11 D-STAR repeaters, and 13 DMR repeaters with more coming.  By the way, the reason the Papa System is so popular is that all of the analog repeaters are linked together with bridges to D-STAR and DMR. 

A bonus for me is that the Papa dudes also supplied a configuration file that I could put on my radio that had all of the analog and DMR repeaters programmed into it (called a code plug).  This allowed me to totally grok DMR setup of frequencies, callgroups, zones, and scan groups in minutes. Their code plug is available on their website ( 

A quick word on DMR

Before I go on any further, I need to explain, as briefly as I can, what DMR (Digital Mobile Radio) is and how its different.  DMR is digital which does a few things right off  the bat. 
  1.  It allows repeaters to handle more than just one conversation at a time.  In this case, DMR repeaters use TDMA (time division multiple access) allowing two conversations at a time by switching back and forth between two “time slots”.  This is done so quickly you don’t notice (like on the old TDMA cell phones). 
  2. Because your voice is digitized when it comes out of the radio, it makes it easy to integrate other digital technologies and add additional features.  For example, all of the BrandMeister repeaters worldwide are  linked together on the internet,
  3. Each transmission has some header info about who you are, the on-ramp that you took and what “talkgroup” you want to communicate with. 
  4. Connections are without noise since it’s voice over digital, the voice is there or it isn’t.  There’s bound to be some data loss so the protocol includes some amount of forward error correction that’s being done. 
    NOTE: I've added some additional important info on this point on my DMR tips page
  5. Because it's digital, you can easily build or buy a little box that we refer to as a "hotspot", basically, you own personal repeater.  This allows you dedicate frequencies that you want to listen to all the time to your own repeater and experiment without taking up one of the slots on a public repeater.

Talkgroups:  If you think of a single stand-alone repeater as a group of people that want to talk to each other, that’s a “talkgroup”.  All of the Papa System analog repeaters mentioned above are linked together forming a very large coverage area creating a larger "talkgroup".   If an operator is out of town, there are ways to connect with a cell phone as well.  Keep all of this in mind.  DMR has over 1,270 talkgroups with room for more.  They do this by connecting each repeater (or the little hotspots like the one in my home) to a network of computers.  When a repeater or hotspot (I’ll just say repeater from no on) is subscribed to a talk group, any transmission that is destined for that group is heard by all the operators listening via a repeater.  Just think of it as a massive website of pages where a page is a talkgroup and instead of a web page, it’s voice.  Lastly, if an operator is using a repeater and wants to talk to his pals on the SoCal 31066 talk group but the repeater isn’t currently subscribed to it full-time, all he/she has to do is dial in the repeater and tell his radio what talk group he wants to communicate with and transmit.  The radio sends the destination talkgroup with each transmission and the repeater will dynamically add the group to the subscribed list on the repeater if it’s isn’t already.  Now the operator just joined the group and can hear everyone else no matter what their on-ramp is.  Think of it as being able to connect to any repeater in the world from any repeater with just the push of a button. There are over 1300 Brandmiester talk groups.  Here's a listing of Brandmeister talk groups.

For me, DMR using the Brandmeister network really opens up a new world of capabilities.  Users of Analog repeaters can link the repeater to another repeater,  if it is supported,  using special tones sent from their radio.  I’ve see local hams do this by linking the repeater I’m on to one in New York or elsewhere.  DMR changes this because it makes connecting to a "talkgroup" from anywhere in the world as easy as pressing the transmit button on your HT.  If I was in Russia, I could use a local repeater or hotspot and yak with my pals that monitor the SoCal group here in San Diego in seconds.  If you are into radio, this is pretty cool. 

There’s one catch though.  If at any time the repeater becomes disconnected from the internet, it acts like any old-school repeater by only having the capability to communicate with users on that specific repeater.  In a disaster, not a problem, just choose the “local” talk group and the repeater knows not to even try to use the Internet. 


      Low Cost - $179 at Amazon (mine was a $20 raffle ticket)
      Size: 5" tall, 2 14" wide, 1" deep w/o clip, antenna 6" tall
      Better Battery. 3100 mAH Lithium Ion
      Frequency Range: 136~174 & 400~480MHz
      True 2 slot which complies to Motorola Tier I and II
      Auto-senses digital or analog reception
      6 W, 5 W, 2.5W or 0.5W - 7 W max on VHF
      0.25 V Analog @ 25 kHz, =0.35 V Analog @ 12.5 kHz
      0.3 V/-117.4 dBm (BER 5%) DMR.
      4,000 Channels, 10,000 Talk Groups with 150,000 Contacts
      can be set to single or dual channel operation
      12.5 kHz/25 kHz Analog, and 12.5 kHz DMR
      Easy import of DMR contact database (entire world wide)

      IP-54 Water and Dust Resistant
      Free Programming Software

A rundown of what I like and don’t like

My Top 10 LIKES :)

Build Quality - This is a much better radio than I was anticipating.  The market has a few very cheap Chinese radios like the BaoFeng UV-5R, a very popular cheap and disposable radio but well liked.  If the BaoFeng blows a final, you just spring for a new one.  The Anytone radio is rugged.  Although I’ve only dropped it once so far.   I watched a YouTuber mention that he was also impressed that the radio has held up to multiple drops over the last few months.  This is important to me as  I do Summits on The Air (SOTA) where I climb to mountain tops and use my VHF and HF radios to make contacts.  I need something that is reliable in these conditions.

Configurability on the radio - One other interesting thing about this radio compared to some of the other DMR radios is that this unit is fully configurable without a computer.  There are many radios out there that are only configurable by hooking them to your computer and downloading a new configuration.  DMR started it's life in commercial  and public safety applications where you typically don't want users to change anything other than a few channels, so this makes sense.  Also, all of the buttons on the radio are programmable and very useful.  For example, being able to turn digital monitor on and off while using the radio is very handy.

Easy to program - The user interface for programming on the radio is pretty straightforward.  In addition, the PC programming software seems well thought out (remember, I’m a geek so this kinda stuff comes easy for me).

Free programming software - The software that comes with some of the expensive Yaesu radios is crippled forcing you to purchase software.  Some radios don’t even come with a programming cable.  This radio comes with both included!

An active development team - What I mean here is that there are firmware updates coming out pretty often that enable new features and resolve bugs.  The hardware has been on the market for a while and early users complained of quite a few bugs.  For me I’ve only run into a couple.  Because it’s a software defined radio with GPS and quite a bit of memory, there continues to be a lot of future potential for my radio as each release of the firmware enables new features.

DMR feature flexibility - If I want to use a talkgroup on a repeater that I’m on but the radio isn’t setup with that pair (repeater config + talkgroup number), I can override a current channel config in seconds, using an existing channel to the repeater and override the talkgroup number.  This is super handy since I don’t want to program in every talkgroup I might ever want to use on every single repeater that I might connect to. 

Internet support - Because this radio hit the high notes with amateur radio dudes, it’s selling like crazy.  Since geeks are the ones that are into ham radio, and geeks publish blogs and videos, there is tons of support available. 

Battery Life - The radio can go a couple of days at times.  Part of this due to the nature of digital and TDMA.  When transmitting,  the unit is actually in transmit mode less than 50% of the time (for every second you transmit, it’s actually only transmitting .4 seconds).

Availability of accessories - The jacks on this unit are similar to others on the market so things like head mounted mic/earphones work.

Documentation - Use of the radio seems pretty well documented and readable.  Less expensive radios have been known to have some pretty bad manuals, but not this one. 

It's rugged!  - I do a lot of Summits On The Air (hiking to the top of a mountain with a radio).  It gets dropped in the dirt, banged on rocks and assaulted by trees and brush and it works like a champ.

Dislikes :(

No Air-Band - The lowest this radio goes is 136.0 mHz.

Sound Quality - One thing I don't like is the sound quality.  DMR is a bit compressed but not bad.  Unfortunately the speaker can make it sound really bad at times, kind of tinging sound...  While using a cheap headset for a conversation, it sounded great.  Supposidly this unit has "IP-54 Water and Dust Resistant" which most likely contributes to the funky sound.  I think it may also be due to the size of the speaker and the fact that all the sounds has to come through two little holes in the front.

Documentation - There’s no help files for the PC programming software and some of the options that you can set on the radio can be very confusing.  There are well written docs on installing the software and how to upgrade the firmware online.

Lock isn’t really lock - There is a keypad lock but the keypad is the only thing that is locked. I want everything but the volume control locked.  When using it I don’t want to accidently hit one of the many buttons and change this thing.  Also, when hiking, my radio gets jostled around quite a bit and I don’t want to pick it up, start using it, only to find I’m on a different frequency or some other features is turned on that is keeping me from communicating.  My other radios have this so why not this unit.  Another reason to be able to quickly lock the unit is if you need to hand it to another user that is unfamiliar with the radio.  If they accidently change something, they may not be able to get it back to where it was easily.

Search in programming software is needed -  One of the things that DMR brings (because of the way that current radios work) is that operators need to configure all of the talk groups they want to use for each repeater.  That means if you have 5 repeaters in your area, and you want to be able to easily jump from machine to machine with 5 talk groups, you have to setup 25 channels.  Most likely, a user will also setup analog repeaters.  This means you end up with a lot of "channels".  The Papa code plug comes with 978 channels.   Users take these channels and group them into smaller sets so that they are useful.  The software support up to 4000 channels!  It would be nice to have search on the main channel screen to see how you setup a channel.  Also, when setting up a new group, rather than scrolling through over 1100 channels in my case, I could easily search for the channel name.
This is a warning to new owners of the 868, make sure you use a good rubric for naming channels.  Some screens allow you to order channels by name to reduce the issue of lack of search capability.

In summary, I'm really impressed with the AT-868UV radio.  Yes, it’s the only DMR radio that I’ve had but even as a analog radio I actually like it better.  I’ll let you look at the other reviews on the internet but I’ve never seen it loose a head to head with another DMR radio.   The AT-878 was recently announced and that might be the best yet.  If they support APRS in analog mode, that will enable it to make the cut for my primary HT in my SOTA loadout.  As a bonus, it’s also supposed to have "roaming".

Update 2/6/2021
One more note about the 878.  I've noticed that it outperforms other radios in that the front end is less likely to be overloaded.  It outperformed the Yaesu FT3 and Baofeng radios when on a moutn top with a lot of RF equipment.  This is super handy for SOTA.  I can't find the link to a chart that others have assembled but if I remember right, it was in the top 10 although I'm not sure.  See for yourself here.

What do you think?  Post a comment and let me know.

Technical Specs

Technical Specifications
Memory Channels

4,000 channels
DMR Talk Groups

Digital Contacts

150,000 (complete worldwide database from DMR-MARC)
Power Levels

4 programmable power levels: 6/4/2.5/1 Watt Transmit Power Levels

250 zones, up to 250 channels per zone

1.77 inch color TFT Screen with selectable dual channel or single channel display

Operate 35+ hours between charges with the supplied 3150 mAh lithium ion battery in the power saver mode

12.5 / 25.0 kHz Analog, and 12.5 kHz DMR

Enhanced CPS allows direct input and export of channels, digital IDs and talkgroups

Ideal for fire, search & rescue, EMS, police, sheriff, forestry, security patrols, business communications, schools, universities, and other organizations that have FCC licensed frequencies
DMR Compatibility

Supports both Tier I and Tier II operation, making it compatible with DMR repeaters that utilize two-slot TDMA technology
Amateur Radio

Operational on amateur radio DMR networks and FM analog frequencies. Worldwide amateur contact database importable via software

FCC 47CFR90.203 requires the keypad locked in the shipping configuration. Software keypad unlocking and re-programming are available with the included USB Programming Cable
Speaker Connection

2-pin style Kenwood/Wouxun type earphone and speaker mic connection for a variety of accessories
Quiet Tones

CTCSS & DCS tone squelch with split tone and custom tone capability
Frequency Range

136-174 & 400-480 MHz RX & TX
Package Includes

Dual-band VHF/UHF Radio with built in GPS, 3100 mAh extended life lithium ion battery, desk charger with AC adapter, Dual-band GPS antenna, belt clip, USB Programming cable, user manual and downloadable software
FCC Certification

FCC Part 90 Certified, FCC ID: T4KD868UV


Enjoy and 73,
Christian Claborne
(aka Chris Claborne)

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